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第 51 楼 / garygao
- 时间: 2010-1-31 21:46房屋过户以前的成交价，不可以在互联网公开、或者在报纸广告里公布售价，因为很多屋主搬家以前，不想让所有的邻居都知道自己的房子卖了多少钱，所以如果在房屋过户前（completion day)公布售价，侵犯了卖家的隐私，可能会引起诉讼。
为什么地产经纪可以把成交价格的信息透露给自己的客人？此数据是经由地产协会的经纪汇总而来，有很高的准确性和权威性，对于近期要买卖房屋的客人来说，这个信息很重要，可以作为房屋买卖定价的重要依据。
房屋过户以后，任何人都可以到land title office或者通过bconline.com查到房屋出售价格，但是要缴付一定的费用，所以此时房屋售出价格是公共信息，不再受到隐私法的保护。
公众也可以到 www.bcassessment.bc.ca/ 免费查到去年所有房屋的成交信息和政府估价。 -
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- 时间: 2010-1-31 23:44The battle to unlock the housing market
Jan 29, 2010 Steve Ladurantaye Globe and Mail
In the U.S., you can find and bid on a house using an iPhone. So why is it that in Canada, much of the information prospective home owners need is a tightly held secret, unlocked only by real estate agents?
One day in 2002, a self-professed computer nerd named Glenn Kelman scratched his head. Why was it, he wondered, that he could get more information about a $20 book for sale at Amazon.com than he could for a $500,000 home listed on the national Multiple Listing Service?
Later that year, Mr. Kelman founded Redfin.com. He describes the site as a cross between Century 21 and E*Trade. A more pointed description would be to call Seattle-based Redfin a dart aimed at the heart of the real estate industry. Internet-savvy companies like Redfin are breaking MLS's lock on listings data, which the industry uses to ensure that consumers buy and sell houses the traditional way: through real estate agents who are paid hefty commissions.
The move hasn't endeared Redfin to the real estate industry.
“I get death threats,” Mr. Kelman says. “I gave the finger to an industry that only exists to charge a commission on the most important buying decision you'll ever make. We save people money by automating most of the process.”
The battle to free real estate data is well advanced in the United States. Now, it is coming to a head in Canada as the technological attack on the old order is bolstered by both industry rebels and government: The federal Competition Bureau accuses the industry of dampening competition and consumer choice. To consumers whose houses often sell in a few days – but still net agents tens of thousands of dollars in commissions – Canada's real estate boom has made MLS's monopoly on information seem all the more anachronistic...
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- 时间: 2010-2-01 00:02In a letter written last October, CREA said it hoped to resolve its differences with the Competition Bureau by Christmas. The bureau says it is willing to wait for a negotiated settlement, but it will move unilaterally if necessary. CREA says it needs more time to figure out what to do next.
“We've had a number of meetings with the bureau and are trying very hard to understand their concerns and come to a mutually acceptable solution,” says Katherine Kay, outside counsel for CREA.
Any resolution is apt to erode real estate agents' traditional gatekeeper status. One possible resolution would allow a seller's name and address to appear on a listing so they can be contacted directly by potential buyers. A bigger step would be to allow homeowners to list their homes on MLS for a small fee, then negotiate the sale of their homes without the help of an agent. As the process becomes commodified, consumers stand to benefit in lower transaction costs.
翻译一下红字部份，任何的解决方案都是为了排除地产经纪担任守门员的角色，一个可能的解决方案是将卖家的姓名和地址列在上面，供潜在的买家直接和卖家连络。更大胆的解决方案是卖家出少量费用自己登出广告和商谈买卖而无需经纪的邦助。。。。。
在地产局最终不得不很快公开信息的大趣势下，加西删掉热心人的帖子是在是不合潮流。
顺便说一下，任何解决的方案一旦推出，可省掉成千上万的经记费用，至少可抵消七月后HST带给房价的上涨。 -
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- 时间: 2010-2-01 11:51能看到成交价不至于就影响到经纪的生意吧？
最近政府的网站不是可以查到房子的估价和以前的卖价吗？不过好像看不到刚刚售出的价格。
最近在美国看房子，说一下那里的不同:
1,美国的mls 是开放的，经纪只比我们看到的多一点点儿。Mls 的更新很快，房子的status 有变化所有人马上就可以看到，比如是open house, 还是active, pending, 还是正在inspection验房等，房子售出后很快就能看到售价。
2，美国有个redfin 网站，上面可以看到房子的所有历史成交价，还有这次listing 的历史，比如卖了多少天，是否有价格调整等。
3，美国政府的网站，可以查到更详细的历史纪录， 包括以前买卖签署的文件。资料太详细了，我都觉得有些侵犯个人隐私，比如上周查一个房子的历史，看到3年前房子的过户是因为夫妻离婚，房子归了一方，文件上连夫妻双方的名字都可以看到。
美国虽然资料开放，但绝大多数人买卖房屋还是找经济的。
不想把钱给人挣，就自己辛苦买卖房子，找了经济，就不要再想别人可以挣多少。经纪是一种职业，别人付出了劳动，拿到报酬是应该的。这几年温哥华的市场好，有些人似乎觉得经纪挣钱容易，市场不好的时候（or 别的地方）一个客人看几个月房子也不一定买卖下来。 -
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我的精华帖被删鸟。经纪们胜利鸟。我认输鸟 —— 关于义务查成交价
