原文由无忧网的xpxpxpx p写,偶已经贴过数次,这次不重复了。但大家还在争论不休,只好先置顶一段时间。
1,难民+公民入籍的问题。这似乎不矛盾。因为他事实上是2001年被加拿大接受,2005年11月16日才获得公民的。这里有他入籍时的照片:
celilphotos.blogspot.c...omony.html
2,他到底是谁?
这是他朋友的网页:
ghulamyaghma.blogspot.com/
其中提到他1994年被捕入狱,1个月之后越狱的事情。
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Celil (pronounced Je-lil) is an outspoken activist on behalf of Uyghur rights, which first led to his arrest in China in 1994. He escaped after a month in prison, purchasing false documents to enter Uzbekistan, where he found work as a fabric salesman.
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这是东突的网站中一个叫Huseyinjan Jelil的证词:
freasturkistan.org/tes...useyin.htm
其中有:
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I am known as Dilaver Güler, my name is Huseyincan Qari Haji.I am a Turkish citizen, with Uyghur descent and I am a merchant.
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他居然说自己是土耳其公民。
这是无忧网的xpxpxpx p写的:
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Celil和Je-lil其实发音相同,而Huseyinjan Celil本人在吉尔吉斯比什凯克(Bishkek)高级法庭上的的声明又明确指出他当时的使用名是Dilaver Güler,本名是Huseyinjan Jelil。很明显,这个官方记录的Dilaver Güler很可能就是Huseyinjan Jelil/Celil本人的假身份,既然是假身份,生日与实际不符就很自然了。所以说Dilaver Güler和Huseyinjan Jelil/Celil应该就是同一个人。
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这是乌兹别克大使馆向英国大赦机构提供的公开信:
www.uzbekembassy.org/i...ess/pr/868
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Open letter to Amnesty International UK
Amnesty International UK
The Human Rights Action Centre
17-25 New Inn Yard
London EC2A 3EA
9th May 2004
The Embassy of Uzbekistan in London has been receiving appeals of the Amnesty International members on Huseyincan Celil.
According to the statement of the Interpol National Central Bureau in Uzbekistan, Huseyincan Celil was identified as Guler Dilaver of Turkish subject and native of Kashgar, Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region of China. He had been on wanted list by the Interpol on terrorism charges.
Mr Guler Dilaver (Huseyincan Celil) was born in 1955 in Kashgar, Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region of China and citizen of Turkey. He was wanted by Kyrgyz law enforcement bodies for membership in terrorism groups, kidnapping, taking hostages and illegal weapon possession.
The relevant authorities of Kyrgyzstan have also identified that the arrested was Guler Dilaver (Huseyincan Celil). According to information of Kyrgyz law enforcement bodies, Mr Dilaver (Celil) uses undercover names of Hussein Calil, born in 1968, or Calil Husan Siddikovich, born in 1970, or Huseyincan Celil, born in 1969.
He had been on the Interpol wanted list since 13 August 2002. The warrant for his arrest was signed by the Prosecutor-General of Kyrgyz Republic in January 2001.
Fingerprint tests of Huseyincan Celil proved that he had been arrested on 10 May 1998 and his name was registered by the National Security Service of Kyrgyz Republic as Guler Dilaver. This fact was confirmed in the protocol of identification presented by the Information and Analytical Department of Kyrgyz Interior Ministry on 29 March 2006.
According to the Kyrgyz authorities Guler Dilaver (Huseyincan Celil) was involved in assassination of the head of Uygur society in Kyrgyz Republic on 28 March 2000 and terrorist act against the state delegation of Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region of China on 25 May 2000.
Uzbekistan continues to fulfil its international obligations and adhere to international norms of human rights. Uzbekistan's further steps will be taken within the framework of its international obligations.
Amnesty International is a respected organization and has contributed significantly to upholding the justice in human rights. However, recent appeals by the AI members in respect of Huseyincan Celil testify that the members are misleading by personality of Mr Celil, who was fugitive on terrorism charges.
The Embassy expresses its hope that the Amnesty International UK will spread the Embassy's concern amongst its members by calling upon them to be accurate and vigilant before sending appeals on release of persons who are lawbreakers in reality.
Embassy of the Republic of Uzbekistan in London
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因为他事实上是2001年被加拿大接受,2005年11月16日才获得公民的
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也是5年里住满3年才得到公民身份,没啥特殊手段。
至于之前他说自己是哪国人都不重要,就是火星人只要合乎规定也可以入籍。
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也是5年里住满3年才得到公民身份,没啥特殊手段。
至于之前他说自己是哪国人都不重要,就是火星人只要合乎规定也可以入籍。
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忒跳跃鸟,五年住满三年是必要而非充分条件。
Celil在申请移民的时候是否提供了false document? 如果不是,那么他在中国期间的无犯罪公证是哪里来地?如果移民身分是非法获得,那么能申请公民乎?基于false document获得的公民身分,Steve会认可乎?Steve都不认可的公民身分,可以获得主流社会认可乎?主流社会不认可的加拿大公民,应该予以保护乎?出了这么多的漏子,移民政策还不修改,可乎?
财色大师先慢呼,人家老玉是上岸的时候申请的是难民,不是移民。偶没做过难民偶不知道,是否说自己是难民就可以在加拿大申请难民了?还需要提供什么样的材料?国内的无犯罪证明?难民逃出来之前都先去办个无犯罪公证,还是申请难民期间回国去办个无犯罪公证?
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财色大师先慢呼,人家老玉是上岸的时候申请的是难民,不是移民。偶没做过难民偶不知道,是否说自己是难民就可以在加拿大申请难民了?还需要提供什么样的材料?国内的无犯罪证明?难民逃出来之前都先去办个无犯罪公证,还是申请难民期间回国去办个无犯罪公证?
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难民也不是从船里爬出来奏可以滴,总要看看为虾米变成难民滴
如果是个人奏可以申请,那岂不是在别国杀人放火以后奏都可以跑来申请难民了?
阿牛还是先去洗把脸清醒一哈先